Bring on the Dogs of War! September 26, 2008
Posted by Raegn in RvR.Tags: Add new tag, Analysis/Opinion, scenarios
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I broke into the second tier of the Dark Elf vs. High Elf pairing last night. I was elated. Right off the bat, the Shadowlands have an eerie, dark feel to them. As you break into the quests of this area, don’t be surprised if you find yourself getting turned around in the fog. Personally, I thought it was a lot of fun… even though I died twice from wandering champion level PQ mobs.
About five minutes after I popped into the tier, I queued up for the scenario Pheonix Gate and quested for about the next ten minutes. The ten that followed were an absolute bloodbath.
Unfortunately, it was only my blood that was spilled.
I give myself a little leway because it was my first time in the scenario. Even so, I did exceptionally bad. I tried to rush in from the front. I died. I tried to flank from the side. I died again. I tried to run on top of a hill, doing some kind of high ground flank attack… but a lion mauled me and left me with only one good hand. Damn… holding a staff is friggin’ hard now.
So, at the end, I only did better than the afk’er who sat at the spawn point the whole time. I know… it’s pathetic. I kid you not, I died about seven times and didn’t get a single death blow.
Needless to say, I walked away with a bitter taste in my mouth. I tried to bear in mind that I was only rank 12 going against a bunch of rank 16-18’s, however.
I resolved at that point to level and return to the scenario to seek my retribution. Unfortunately, it was not to be.
I queued for the scenario the next night at level 13. I didn’t pop in right away, so I quested… and quested… and quested. At the end of the night, I stayed in queue for over three hours.
The way I see it, there are three options:
1) I’m not the only person who got irritated in the instance; it must not be fun, even for those with the level advantage.
2) There was some glitch in my queuing up. After 20 minutes, sure… it could be just a slow moving scenario. After 120 minutes though, something is F’d up.
or
3) People just are outlevelling the content.
Out of those options, I would say that it’s probably a mix of all three options.
No matter what’s going on though, if players are stuck waiting three hours to battle, there’s going to be a problem.
A while back in WAR’S development, Mythic announced the prospect of featuring the “Dogs of War” to prevent such long delays.At some point, though, they decided they couldn’t do this on a level they would consider great.
I’d like to give Mythic a big head’s up though: NOW IS THE TIME FOR THE DOGS OF WAR. No player should be stuck waiting three hours for a scenario. Ever. Such a situation will undoubtedly lead to the failure harsh criticism of the game.
Thus far, I’ve been very supportive of WAR. I’ll tell you this much though, if a game that promises RvR can’t deliver RvR without having players give up their progression in other realms of play, WAR will struggle more than it should announced a failure .
This is the single most pressing issue I’ve encountered in the game.
It’s well and great to give people quick access to RvR in the first tier, but Mythic needs to provide those same opportunities throughout every gamer’s experience.
This all begs the question, why aren’t the Dogs of War in the game now?
I, like everyone else, have no true answer to this. I can only imagine that designing AI at a level competitive with human players is more difficult than Mythic first anticipated.
I have to ask though, in a game designed around RvR, why didn’t they plan for this exact situation? Maybe they did and dropped the ball. Maybe they just didn’t see this situation as a possibility. Either scenario is unacceptable.
I call on Mythic to bring in the Dogs of War. Will they be perfect? No. As a matter of fact, compared to human players, computer AI will probably suck. Despite that, I’d rather join a scenario as the underdog than not join at all.
What do you think? Is it time to bring in the mercenaries, albeit their potential skill gap?
Edit: Alright, maybe I was a little bit harsh. Long day. Sorry.
A few people from my guild went into Phoenix Gate last night and vowed never to retun. With 6 minutes remaining on the clock, the score was 12 to 12 and they said it was the most boring scenario they’ve ever played.
I haven’t been in it myself, so I can’t comment on the specifics, but I doubt I’ll get a chance to see it now that my guild has blacklisted it.
The only rank 12-13 careers with any survivability in T2 scenarios are tanks and healers. If you are not one of these careers, I suggest playing extremely cautiously or not playing at all because you will die… a lot! I had a rank 21 Witch Hunter pop on my Squig Herder (rank 15) last night and I died before I even knew what hit me. Bolster makes up for things somewhat, but it’s not nearly enough to make you competitive with the rank 21s in T2.
And I’m totally cool with that.
There’s no glitch in queuing, there are simply not enough Order players to balance the destruction people in queues. If you were playing Order on the same server, you can requeue in join a scenario right away.
My Order characters can pvp through levels all the time. My Destruction guys are stuck questing in pve. Even doing RvR is a waste because there are no enemy players.
The faction imbalance is a problem that Mythic is aware of but I don’t think they have any real solution to fix it yet.
@Shawno – listen tot he most recent Massively Speaking Podcast to hear Josh Drescher’s take on population balance!
Phoenix gate is just bad. It’s designed to funnel players into the middle for a brawl and encourages the flag carriers to go run and hide rather than fight with their team.
At least now you can queue up for all the scenarios in the tier. So Sign up for Mourkain Temple and Stonetroll and maybe you will have better luck!
Adding that to the game sure gave me a heck of a chance to do about twice the Scenarios I was doing before… although its kind of random which one you get into. But if you just wanna fight, it sure helps a lot! (glad they changed it!)
Yeah, I was definitely happy they put this in. It’s helped a ton in getting into the scenarios and learning the best techniques. I’ve found that I wind up getting into Mourkain Temple more than anything, which is fine for the most part. Cross-pairing queuing FTW
Thanks for reading!